So, extrapolating from there, the one thing that sucked about the Endo was traction, either drive, or steering. The squarer profile gives a nice flat contact patch, less prone to diving into soft, packed powder. The OG of our little club all loved the Endo for it's superior flotation qualities. I have no time on the Origin8 tires, so I can't speak to them personally, but forward or backward, if folks are getting self steering with them at reasonable pressures, they suffer from the same issue as Endo's, a square profile. While we refer to a given tire, which obviously has a pattern, it's not the pattern that is affecting the issue at hand.Д¬arcass shape, tire profile, casing shape, whatever you want to call it, is.ДЄnyone who's tried an Endomorph up front and switched to another tire like a Larry or Nate, knows exactly what I'm talking about.

In reading several of the responses here, it seems that tread pattern is something folks consider to be a factor. I believe some sites list them as 2000 and as high as 2100 grams and I believe it!!! I was actually riding through overgrown thorny areas to test them and never got a puncture. Myself, I am hoping that Origin 8 puts out a knobby styled Devastator with the Kevlar casing. The Devastator tread design resembles an endo with a 'broken' tread pattern. I rode through the summer with no flats and have already had four flats after switching back to the Nates in Sept.ДЄlso, I have never owned an Endo but have seen them on other bikes and on the web etc. I still like the Origin 8s, particularly for their puncture resistance. Note that I had switched back to the the Nates in September and the better quality steering was immediately noticeable. I believe the tread design somehow 'locks on' to the off camber ruts and 'follows the rut'. One system that we like to go on has a few trails with severe erosion from rain run off and the self steering was wicked on those trails. Otherwise, they are an awesome tire and after a few rides we both adjusted to it at the higher pressures. Running lower psi worked better for ride quality but the self steering was noticeable.

For myself, I ended up running the Origin 8s at 10psi front and rear at a bodyweight of 240lbs. We noticed the self steering feel immediately and it is worsened with low tire pressures. Decided we wouldn't need as much traction for the summer and purchased the $45 Devastators with a Kevlar casing. My friend and I both bought 907s last year that came equipped with Nates. Click to expand.Have to agree with Mendon.

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